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Author Topic: do you prefer the cars running on cng  (Read 360 times)
azee111
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« on: January 07, 2009, 06:39:40 pm »

i have many people installing the cng cylinders in their cars instead of using it on petrol
do you think ,its safe to drive cars on gas cylinders or cng?
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2009, 02:05:20 pm »

CNG is supporsed to be very environment friendly & cost effective.

I know a friend in India who drives a BMW with CNG fitting.

Sounds funny, right but he says in India people like to save on petrol as it is costly & the status is also maintained.
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2009, 04:21:30 pm »

nope i don't ever prefer cars running on cng. i don't think its safe using it than compared to petrol or diesel.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2009, 05:04:33 pm »

there is nothing as such harmful in using CNG,thing is that ...CNG is one the alternative of petrol ...since as we can see the crisis of petrol goin on now a days ...So CNG prove to be very helpful in the upcoming time ...!!
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2009, 08:16:35 pm »

Well, CNG has it's own set of advantages and disadvantages. I mean using CNG is very eco-friendly and cost effective, but on the other hand, it takes a lot of time and pain to actually move the vehicle, plus the it's reach of 0-60 k mph in cars is not appreciable.
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2009, 02:45:29 pm »

LPG is a better alternative.  10-15% drop in power, higher per km usage but cooler running engine = less wear.  Plus LPG is ideal for big boost turbo applications.
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2009, 12:41:06 pm »

In my opinion, LPG is the most insecure and dangerous, since it is highly vulnerable to fire than the other two.
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2009, 03:32:08 am »

I would disgree.  Every taxi in Australia, around 100,000 of them, runs on LPG, plus thousands of other commercial and private vehicles.  Only government approved conversion companies can convert cars here (no user fitted kits allowed) for use on the road.  They do not have a statistically high number of fires in accidents, in fact, quite the opposite.  LPG conversion in very safe when done properly.

I was comparing LPG to petrol, as we dont use CNG here for road vehicles.

I do not work for the LPG industry  Anime Anime
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2009, 12:17:02 pm »

I would disgree.  Every taxi in Australia, around 100,000 of them, runs on LPG, plus thousands of other commercial and private vehicles.  Only government approved conversion companies can convert cars here (no user fitted kits allowed) for use on the road.  They do not have a statistically high number of fires in accidents, in fact, quite the opposite.  LPG conversion in very safe when done properly.

I was comparing LPG to petrol, as we dont use CNG here for road vehicles.

I do not work for the LPG industry  Anime Anime

In my opinion, having LPG cyclinders is the most explosive idea 
And even i don't work for CNG industry   Anime
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2009, 11:15:49 am »

We need to talk flash point and auto-ignition temperature.  Liquid fuel doesn't burn.  The flash point is the lowest temperature that a fuel can form an ignitable vapour.  Diesel flashes at around +75C, Petrol (Gasoline) around -40C, LPG around -110C, and CNG around -190C.  So while everything except diesel will flash at room temperature, CNG will flash first, meaning it is the most easily able to prepare for ignition.  Plus, CNG cant be compressed into a liquid without cooling to -160C, which means when fitted to your car, you're actually carrying aroung a big tank full of combustible gas, ready to ignite.  An LPG tank is only full of gas when you're about to run out of gas. 

There is zero chance that any modern, correctly made, maintained and fitted LPG gas cannister would explode - not under any circumstances.  Even shooting incendiary rounds at one won't work.  The pressure relief safety systems combined with the high auto-ignition temperature will prevent it every time.  The worst you could expect given a sufficient external heat source for ignition would be a violent (but pretty short) giant blowtorch cutting a hole though whatever part of the car the relief valve is facing.  I assume the same would go for CNG, but it is stored as a flammable gas under pressure.

The auto-ignition temperature is that at which a fuel will self-ignite without the need of heat catalyst (a spark or flame) - think compression ignition diesel.  CNGs only advantage over LPG is that it has both a slightly higher ignition point and a slightly higher auto ignition point, but neither of them is anywhere near as easy to ignite as gasoline vapour.  Thats why LPG and CNG are safer than gasoline in a car accident, it's just so much harder to get them to ignite and burn.   

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